Friday, 15 April 2011

How Far Back Do We Go?

I came across two separate articles recently and I decided to look at the subjects in a bit more detail. I had seen the topics before but I had not devoted much time to them. Maybe I was not ready for them and the importance of the message.

The first topic is about an obscure find in a remote region of Turkey called Gobekli Tepe. In a chance encounter a shepherd uncovered an unusual stone. That discovery led to a find that threatens to shatter our perceived historical timeline.

This site was built between 11,000 and 12,000 years ago. The pillars range in size up to 4 meters in height and are intricately carved. The site was in use for thousands of years and then deliberately buried.

Only 5% of the total site has been uncovered to date. I was especially impressed with the pillars – this from ‘primitive’ hunter-gathers using stone age tools. This short video gives a brief look at what the excavations have uncovered so far.

Our ‘approved’ history has civilisation arising in Mesopotamia, the region between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. In this region the Sumerians arose around 5000 BCE. This is the civilisation for which we have the earliest forms of writing - their clay tablets. The legend of Gilgamesh comes from this time.

The earliest known records of a human settlement are of Catal Hoyuk an Early Neolithic site in Anatolia, south central Turkey (6300-5500 BC). The oldest records of ancient Egypt go back to approximately 3250 BCE. Stonehenge is dated as approximately from 3100 BCE.

Recorded civilisation only goes back 5000 years. The find at Gobekli Tepe kicks the can a lot further back down the road. What happened in the thousands of years before then?

Consider if you will the implications of this find. A group of semi-nomadic people came together, built the complex at Gobekli Tepe over many years with stone tools. After thousands of years of use the site was then carefully buried. All this took place thousands of years before the arrival of the first cities.


The second story was on a topic I have seen a few times in my wanderings around the web and is more controversial. In many ways the many reports are all traced back to one man Semir Osmanagic. He has claimed that there exists 3 man made pyramids in the Visoko valley of Bosnia.

Pyramids and pyramidal mounds are found on all of the major land masses except for Europe. I have a number of articles including the highly sceptical ones. I think there are definitely grounds for further in-depth study. Many of the negative articles are very much ad hominem.

Archaeology is very much an ‘old boy’s network’ of adherents to ‘approved’ research. Any researcher proposing novel or unorthodox fields of investigation commit career suicide. Historical digs are expensive and funds come in the form of grants. By such means a subtle and unspoken censorship is maintained.

I did find this blog but I found some links were not working. A better site is this one. As always I recommend checking for yourselves. The dates mentioned for the pyramid are anything from 12,000 – 27,000 years old. If any of this can be substantiated it will be the historical equivalent of disproving the flat earth theory. Here is a 2 part interview with Semir.

How far back do we go? A better question is why has this been kept quiet?


  1. yo Chuck,
    have you read Daniel Quinn's "Ishmael"? it gives you a whole new way of looking at "civilisation"

  2. Hello James and thanks for wandering over to my other blog. This should kick the pageview count for the week into double digits (grin)

    I had not heard of |Quinn’s work but I looked up the synopsis and it sounds intriguing. I have downloaded it and it is now on my ‘things to read list’.

  3. I think I am going to like this but not sure I will have time to watch all this tonight.

    Yes Anatolia Turkey was named after the Sumerian Goddess Anu the consort of Antu, those who came from heaven to earth. I am going to have to read this carefully tomorrow though.

  4. One more thing I will leave as a starter I ran into and I will say no the romans did not build Baalbek.

  5. I don't know how much I can get in these chicken google blocks... but what I gather is all the pyramids around the world were from the Atlantean time or further and were build by the Nefilim or Annunaki as a form of balancing the earth's energy field by putting some type crystal device on top of them. Some also like Sitchin indicate craft landed on the.

    The Cuzco stones are dove tailed, 15 feet high each and 15 feet in width. They form walls sixty feet high. To do so back then they would have had to have been lugged hundreds of miles exactly like the pyramids. They were not made by people of this world and the locals as far back as recorded history goes say the same.

    Some of the blocks not so far from there from the temple of Jupiter in Lebanon weigh 800 tons. No the Romans not only did not handle this assignment they did not have the technology for it. And no the romans did not build the pyramid of giza either.

    The Temple of Jupiter really is one of the most impressive ancient Temples in the world. It measures 88×48 meters and stands on a platform or podium reached via a wide stairway that can also only be described as truly monumental. The actual Podium rises a full 13 meters above the surrounding terrain (fig.31).The Trillithon in the retaining walls are three of the four largest stone blocks ever hewn

    This link Buelahman has is very similar to descriptions found in Sitchin's books on the temple.

    There is also a pic of a fossilized hand print in the above PDF that is 110 million years old.

  6. Lots of reading in that one DM. I have taken a copy and will around to it after the latest SOTT report from Clif High.

  7. Very interesting stuff here Chucky, a subject I rarely delve into, although I am quite intrigued. I used to really like watching these types of programs on the History Channel when I was younger, before I really started focusing on Zionism, the global power structure, 9/11, ect.

    The first thing that comes to mind with these types of revelations is that we, as human beings, have the capability and wherewithal to achieve a much higher form of civilization than what we are currently experiencing. I don't think anyone can dispute that. Secondly, it saddens me deeply to know that we humans, no matter our race, religion, nationality, ect., have proven to be able to live together in peace and as one with the cosmos/God (or whatever you want to call it). And finally, it reminds me (as if I needed another reminder) what unprecedented times we are living in- we are reaching the epoch of an era of a complete revolt against the cosmos/God, and are soon to discover the consequences.

    Take care my friend.

    BTW- that pdf that Mick linked to is a trip!

  8. Hello there John. I have always found these sorts of things interesting. Once I started to question some of the mainstream and academic ‘facts’ it snowballed from there.

    You are correct that people have far much more in common than we think. We want to live our lives and look after our families.

    I find it no accident that the majority of ‘perceived’ history extends back to the period when a nomadic tribe first appeared (from where?) to plague humanity. Their own account of history is a mish-mash of stolen ideas from other peoples.

    DM’s link is a great read. That’s a whole new rabbit hole for people to explore. It raises many questions but don’t expect to get any grant funding to explore them further (grin).

  9. I've saved the pdf on my computer to my "Important Books" folder. This one definitely qualifies!

    Pursuing truth and justice in this world is certainly not going to get you any grant funding or a nice cushy job in New York, Chicago, LA or DC. Pursuing truth and justice will relegate you to the blogosphere. That's fine with me. I'd rather be hanging out with the good guys anyways.

    Enjoy your weekend Chucky!

  10. I certainly agree that the company is better (grin). Enjoy the reading and thanks for popping by the Heretic's corner.

  11. I think you failed to mention China...and India. China had 7000 years of history, and still going...

  12. I think you failed to mention China...and India. China had 7000 years of history, and still going...

  13. the videos unfortunatly arent working. could you perhaps find alternatives?